
Mamudu: I pray that in 2021 Gambians reject “Cult of Personality syndrome” in exchange for a battle of ideas. Our politics must not be a battle about the most beautiful billboard, branded cars or the most glittering political party headquarters.
I hope our politicians now know that elections are not won by displaying large poster boards, large military grade trucks. It takes winning the hearts and souls of the ordinary voter to govern. It has never been a beauty contest! It is about finding the right leadership for the Gambia. It must not be about the display of wealth and endless campaign signboard spending.
Mamudu: It’s sad because the emptiness in the mind cannot be compensated for with some big billboards. Mediocre leaders are the most insecure people, they put their faces on large billboards where everyone can see them because for them leadership is a crown on their wounded ego.
Mamudu: Political leaders who put their faces on the cover of school books but fail to put books in the school libraries. Insecure leaders will do everything to remind the people that they are the leaders partly because they themselves don’t believe that they are the leaders.
In the quest to hide their insecurities, these leaders become defensive and arrogant. They cannot be advised in the presence of other human beings. They can’t be criticized by anyone below them as a matter of fact you can’t even make a joke about them. They fear correction and public criticism because it exposes their internal deficiencies. Insecure leaders are the weakest, but they hide this weakness by acting tough.
Allow me to quote American activist Benjamin Todd Jealous: “In a democracy there are only two types of power: there’s organized people and organized money, and organized money only wins when people aren’t organized.”
I think we have given too many chances to the organized money cartel. Since independence our politicians have rewarded themselves by looting from us to get more powerful.Who are the sponsors of these billboads?
On 01/15/2018 Mr. Alagi wrote “To listen and understand, to question and disagree, to treat no position as sacred and no object as impious; to be willing to entertain unpopular ideas and cultivate the habit of an open mind- This is what encouraged me that President Adama Barrow should be applauded for his humility, his courage to accept to be referred to “Mr. Barrow President of The Republic of The Gambia” not with long titles and insignia.” I apologize if my quotation is not exactly on point but it is close enough. Now, since then and what have transpired and the new image building of Barrow, how on point has Mr. Alagi been? Humility is not a switch that one can turn on and off when one chooses to do so. There is more to Barrow than only lack of education. In fact, Barrow’s lack of education should be our least of worries. There are much more worrisome issues. The quotation above in on point from “To listen …. open mind” … then it took a nose dive. We need to stop building our so-called leaders until there is enough facts to warrant that. If we are not skeptical of our politicians until proven wrong then we have our head in the sand. Let’s say we are skeptical of all our politicians and they prove us wrong then who wins, Gambia wins. I love it when what I say about our politicians is proven wrong by them because if they are right, Gambia wins and when I am right Gambia loses. I would rather be wrong and Gambian wins than be right and Gambia loses. There are stack difference between Barrow and Jammeh no doubt about that, but the similarities in my mind are troubling. Take away Jammeh’s extrajudicial killings, the disappearance of people and lavished lifestyle and loud mouth and then you have Jammeh’s second coming in the person of Barrow. There is more to come folks so get ready. Some of what Barrow is doing would not be different if Mr. Ousainou Darboe was president. That is why I said above that Barrow’s flaws cannot and should not be limited to lack of education. We have in world history people who were highly educated and they turned out to be very bad leaders. Education is great and I am not by any means devaluing it, but there is more to leadership than education alone. I have never seen or read about a great leader who did not have foresight and humility. Now, there are some people called great leaders because they did well during their time in power on a particular incident but take that away and you see that they were terrible leaders. Of course, we celebrate them as great leaders. Be skeptical and vigilant; you owe it to yourselves. I am in no way attacking Mr. Alagi, so let me make that very clear. The sample size we have of Barrow does not deserve any praises in my book; but it is worrisome to me. I will be one of the happiest Gambians if Barrow proves me wrong. Have a blessed day everyone !
Power corrupts. We’ve all heard that before. Human beings are ego fragile, driven by self preservation and greed. No exceptions, not in Gambia, not anywhere on earth. If Halifa becomes President today, my prediction is that his ego will grow exponentially and he will convince some that his …. don’t stink.
Lesson here is this:
Never expect anything from politicians. They are opportunist. They are crooks, all of them.
Know that they will:
Steal from the treasury.
Lie to you.
Abuse your trust.
They will attempt to stay in power for ever.
Our collective responsibility as citizens, is to be the protector of our freedom and democracy.
We MUST keep them honest.
Call them a thief when they steal.
Call them liars when they lie.
Resist when they abuse the power we gave them.
But remember to let them know when they do RIGHT, when they do the people’s work.
Evaluation of our politician’s conduct and behavior is a work in progress, most will regress, some will have arrested development and others will become monsters like Jammeh. Give Alagi a break, he has a right to change his opinion as things fall apart.
No doubt Dr. Sarr! Alagi can change his mind whenever he needs to do so. I quoted him to put things in context. That is also why i said that i was not attacking him at all.
That’s a pretty strong attack against the person of Mr Sallah. Have you got any reason(s), apart from him being a politician, for this attack?
Surely, you know that such generalisations cannot, and should never be, the basis to tag an individual with the ills of the group.
That politicians do all the things you allege does not in any way, shape or form mean that Halifa does the same things, but by mentioning him, that’s exactly what you are saying, isn’t it?
No.
Halifa is a person I have tremendous regard and admiration for. That is the basis of using that EXAMPLE. It is not an attack on his integrity. The example was an emphasis to drive home a point.
Bax note the key word is “If”.
ok. I get it.
The question is not whether Adama, Ousainou and the UDP are positioning themselves for self perpetuation. What every Gambian should fundamentally be asking himself/herself is:
Do we want a one party and one person rule for the next 20-30 years?
If not, what are the alternatives to the past and present norms of governance? If we can figure that out, the second step undoubtedly should be mobilization to bring about that change, a system change, we have for fifty three years yearned for.
From billboards, the next thing you know, hospitals, schools, streets etc will be named after Adama, Ousainou and co.
This is why I have been saying the similarities between Adama and Yaya are too striking to ignore.
Yaya has build a personality cult around himself lying through his teeth that he is gifted with supernatural powers that make him see into the future.
Adama is taking the same route of mysticism to be able to dominate the political space to entrench himself. Like Adama, like Yaya, like Dawda.
Every agreement in the coalition manifesto is now so much flaunted rendering that document not worth the paper it’s written on.
Didn’t we (Gambians) see this coming?
It is quite refreshing to see that the president has taken a bold action to embolden his political ambition. Let us not forget fact that the President assumed political power through politics. It is politics that continues to give the President the abilities to make difference to the life of ordinary Gambians . Therefore, it is right that if the President wants to continue his transformative works, he takes steps that will maintain his grip on political power. The Billboard portrait is not only symbolic, but it sends a loud and clear message to his political opponents that the President is ready for a political fight. Everyone knows that great men were great because they advanced living conditions of their citizens through politics. Politics allow great leaders to assume power, and power gives the same leaders the abilities to make difference to the life of ordinary citizens. That is what the President seems to be committed to in here. Given that politics is the only plausible and legitimate way in which the President can assume power,it is fanciful to think that the President will not make political move to advance his political interests . Even Julius Ceasar played politics with Pompey and Crassus before brutally defeating the Republican forces to become the master of Rome. Political motivated actions are part and parcel of realpolitik. Moreover, the failure to engage in politics is likely to have serious consequences for the political master as rightly put by Plato as this” one of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors”.
In my opinion, the Billboard portrait is right and good strategy to prevent such happenings.
Solomon, you said a lot on your posting and some of it I follow but others I do not. We certainly know how Barrow became president. To start with, in my posting above I tried to call attention to how we build up our politicians without enough information. That is why I quoted Mr. Alagi. Now back to your posting. You said “It is politics that continues to give the President the abilities to make difference to the life of ordinary Gambians.” Make difference to the life of ordinary Gambians.” You kidding right? The standard of living for majority of Gambians is not better today than two years ago, is it? Yes there is more freedom but not because of Barrow but because of Gambians who voted for him. So, as far as the freedoms Gambians enjoy today go, Gambians deserve the credit and not Barrow. Or am I wrong? The current government’s primary task is to bring about system change. May be that is happening and I am not aware of it, so you can update us on that. Barrow is certainly entitled to politic but what he does in office will have a more lasting effect on Gambia than his politicking. I personally do not have any problem with Barrow’s Billboards. I hope all the other political parties follow suit. That would be good for Gambia. It will show that no one is going to dominate the political landscape as it has been since independence. Let’s have the “War of the billboards”! At least a certain segment of Gambians will be employed in billboard building and will be able to support their families. All for the economy right! As for your Plato’s quote, who is refusing to participate in politics? I thought it was because of Gambians participation that is why we are where we are today. Don’t you agree that Gambians are more engaged in politics today than at any time in recent memory? And what about your last line “In my opinion, the Billboard portrait is right and good strategy to “prevent” such happenings.” What exactly is the Billboard portrait “preventing from happening”?
First, it was the Barrow Youth Movement (or did something precede it that I didn’t know?). Now, the billboards are out, with their own political slogans. Where next? It’s too soon to say, but I think keen observers have a general sense of the direction.
Is it unexpected? I would say not to many observers. We may not have known or ever heard of Adama Barrow, but he was, and probably still is, UDP: a party that has never really committed itself to a departure from the parasitic, privileged, self serving and flamboyant leadership that our country has only known since independence.
So, it is business as usual, for President Barrow and his close associates, whether of the same party or not, and as the high life associated with high office begins to become the “normal” way of everyday life, divisions and loyalties (towards who will best protect individual/group interests) will emerge.
Already, whether they admit it or not, there are very low level internal struggles within the UDP, especially those around the periphery of the party’s power structure. These will become more and more intense, as we approach the end of this government and divergent interests begin to converge into competing camps for retention of power. Gambians should brace ourselves for it, because it will surely come.
We have seen it in both the 1st and 2nd republics, where the Jawara and Jammeh camps emerged triumphant. Will the Barrow camp emerge triumphant or not? Only time will tell.
“Who are the sponsors of these billboads?” Lol,
Excellent question Alagi,
All political parties that are running for election, should declear ALL their financial donators/backers, to show some transparency.
It is quite refreshing to see that the president has taken a bold action to embolden his political ambition………………..
Solomon, what is so refreshing about Adama entrenching himself in a position he is suppose to occupy for only three years? That is, if he is honest and sincere.
This president should be “emboldening” democratic and incorruptible institutions, not establishing himself as a monarch over the people.
Carefully observe how his clothing (including the various shapes and shades of skull hats laden with charms and the finger rings) has changed since coming to power, and you will see a bit of Yaya and Dawda.
Isn’t it hypocritical that he came to power on the back of a coalition of political parties and he is now using that platform to entrench himself in power?
He has everything he needs to bring everlasting positive change to The Gambia and transform our nation but he is blowing that opportunity away day by day.
Thank you for your response Mwalimu. The Coalition’s agreement was a gentlemen agreement which had fell into parts as a result of parties’ unwillingness to hold the agreement in place.It is self evident that some of the parties had deliberately failed to commit themselves to the agreement by refusing to take part in governing of the state, while others excluded themselves by acting contrary to the sprit of the agreement. In my mind, the constitutional mandate must stand, so the President is entitled to govern for that mandate for stability and continuity sake. Indeed, that is matter for the President to decide wether he continues or not. But the force of the argument that the President should only serve three years term is becoming less and less forceful as ever, when in fact some of the parties to the agreement seems to have stepped away from governing. It is my firm view that, the President is right to actively engage in politics if that means raising a Billboard portrait of himself, so be it. Political advertisement is an acceptable practice in most democracies. Others can follow suit if they are serious about obtaining political power. They also have the choice either to take the part of a politician, or a part of an activist who complain about every political moves.
Solomon thank you too for making your position clear. I don’t agree with you on the points but you have demonstrated the ability to engage in a conversation without necessarily antagonizing those with opposing views.
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The gentleman‘s agreement should be honored in letter and spirit because that was what was sold to the electorate leading to Adama ascending to the highest office in the land. Dishonoring it will not have any legal consequences for him but it will be a defining aspect of his legacy. That’s the first point.
Second, I assume the party that, according to you, “deliberately failed to commit themselves to the agreement by refusing to take part in governing of the state“, is the PDOIS.
I want to ask you this: which ministerial portfolio has been offered to the people’s democratic organization for independence and socialism (PDOIS)? Are you privy to any information on that? Because there was no correspondence to that effect to the CC of the party.
Having said that, one of the proposals on the table before Ousainou came out of jail to torpedo the whole coalition agenda, was to hire technocrats to man the various ministries through the transition period. So you can’t accuse anyone here of not sticking to the agreements but Adama and his imperialist boss.
I don’t know the kind of stability you are talking about but it seems to me you mean safeguarding the territorial integrity of The Gambia and the internal security of the nation. Well, Solomon, that is a very familiar language and it’s that of Yaya Jammeh. He was under the impression that without him, Gambia will sink, just as Dawda Jawara was. The security and stability of a nation cannot depend on one single individual, not even the president. You see that’s a malady of awareness we need to cure in our minds. We cannot build a nation around leaders or politics of personalities. The nation itself should be the central issue. These issues are best handled by competent and efficient institutions. Leaders only guide that process with policies.
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I will like to take you up on continuity too.
One person, not even the president can guarantee continuity. The democratic process is dynamic in nature. Let me again assume you mean the projects that are started should be finished by the same government in power. Solomon, that’s impossible. Many projects have been in the pipeline for decades and move from the hands of one administration to the next through institutions. Yes changes can occur in the implementation of those projects or they could be totally abandoned for a myriad of reasons. That comes with the territory. Just, every president should try to overdo the one before them, for the people of The Gambia.
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Putting up billboards reminds a traumatized population of the autocratic rule of Yaya. We have seen how he has slowly, gradually and surely build a cultist movement around himself with disastrous consequences for the people and the nation. We are witnessing the same practices by Adama and we will not make the fatal mistake ever again of keeping quiet and wait for God to throw him out.
Solomon, I hope you are not trying to belittle the mighty Gambian activists who through many and varied contributions helped to send Yaya to EQG.
If so, why?
Yours in the service of The Gambia and the Black Nation, I remain.
Can’t add much to what Mwalimu is saying here. Personally, I would love to see the other political parties or anyone who wants to raise a billboard of him or herself do so. It is part of free speech. Bax where are you? You guys better start raising some boards.Lol! This is not about standards but about exposure. Times are changing so you guys need to get on with the times. No more sitting around dilly dallying expecting people to embrace one’s ideas of government. That has not work in the past. You guys need to get in the center of the ring and get dirty. Use every available means to reaching voters. There is much that can be said and needs to be said. The days of armchair politicking are over. What I hope and pray for is that we have debates by our political parties all on one stage debating issues facing our country. Can you imagine Halifah, Kanda, Barrow, and newcomers all on one stage debating issues facing The Gambia. That would be a sight to behold. Oh, that would a slice of heaven on earth for me. Have a blessed day everyone!
Samba, I will repeat what Mwalimu said about billboards: they are a painful reminder of Babili Mansa and his reactionary regime. It is just too soon for Gambians to see billboards with another political personality springing up everywhere.
People may think that using every trick in the book to win elections or consolidate power is smart, but such a strategy may backfire in the long run, even if it enjoys success for a while.
I think if the UDP was to present Darboe as their presidential candidate next elections, they would be better advised to work for an outright 50+% victory, otherwise, they may struggle to attract any party into an alliance, given the way he had treated coalition 2016.
So, strategies can be successful, even for a short time, but they could also be one’s own undoing.
You Know Halifa doesn’t shy away from debates and he has even challenged anyone who disputes the signing of the MOU to a public debate on GRTS. His challenges on the economic, social and political policies to move Gambia forward are still standing.
We were told that there was no time for debates until Jammeh was removed, but its almost TWO years since, and no one has yet accepted his challenges. “The ball”, as the saying goes, “is in others’ courts.”
Mwalimu,
I don’t know who you are referring to as your activists. Sadly i failed to persuade you to change your positions. What I was saying about activist was not meant to demean a work of an activist. It was meant to state the fact that, if you are serious about obtaining political power you must play realpolitik. There is no doubt that activist are sui generis and most of them seems fully committed to the protection of the individual’s right. However, without no empirical evidence, I submit that they hardly attain political power. On that note, I say this, while utopianism is highly desirable, it is realism that tends to deliver election victories.So, practical step which levels up to the electorates’ understanding is bound to deliver good election results.Time will tell.
Thank you.
I don’t know what you’re talking about. Can you be a bit braver and state your points unambiguously please?
What is realism: buying votes, bribing voters with bags of rice, appealing to ethnic sentiments and family/regional ties to win elections? Is that what realism is to you?
Who is engaged/living in utopianism?
It is erroneous to hold the view that only those in Cabinet are partaking in the governance process. It is equally erroneous to hold the view that those who are not in Cabinet have betrayed the spirit of the Coalition. It is only people who want to confuse and hide behind that screen to further their own agenda that are making this argument.
……….There is no doubt that activist are sui generis and most of them seems fully committed to the protection of the individual’s right. However, without no empirical evidence, I submit that they hardly attain political power.
It’s not about attaining political power for many fighters (activists) in the political processes. It’s about influencing the politics to make it function not for a privileged few, but for all citizens and alike. Attain and influence are different words that we need to be mindful of.
My activists: they are the man and the woman who from Gambia to Senegal to England to North America to Japan either morally or financially contribute to fighting an autocratic ruler with his henchmen and women until they get rid of rats. Plus all those in the social, print and audiovisual media, making their presence felt with the billions of words that are necessary for a meta discourse process that is necessary in any human endeavor. And the political parties and players that came together to form an association behind which the populace rallied, ultimately giving Yaya a one way ticket to no mans land.
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Am sorry to say, you fail to convince me because your argument is contextually weak in substance. Realpolitik is everyday politics. So if cheating (kamasa), not playing by the rules of the game, hood winking unsuspecting folks, utilizing the state machinery go garner unearned advantages is what for you means realpolitik, then we are in trouble as Gambians.
Why? Because a person with a sound mind like yours should be part of the solution to national problems but not be the problem themselves.
Yours in the service of The Gambia and the Black Nation, I remain.
Bax,
just a late reply on the above comments you made as I am not always here to reply. Lets me it clear here,yes, I am fully committed to advance my agenda because I believe, it offers great benefits to the Gambia such as a stable government which will propel the country to prosperity. While I accept the point that the PDIOS (your party) continues to play an important role in the enlightenment of the electorates, it is imaginary to think they are capable of winning an overall majority in any general election. Although you have not suggested that, I believe that the reason they are in politics is to win power or may I am wrong on this? In any case, it seems distant in the woods for them to win the executive power until they change course. As you have seen it has taken decades for people to start understanding their messages because of the complexity of the messages as they are grounded in idealism. It is often said that their political strategy of winning seems too idealistic for ordinary Gambians to grapple with. That is why I suggested here’ a political strategy tinged with realism is more likely to deliver election victories ,in simple terms, I mean a common sense approach that resonates with voters so as to galvanise them to vote for the party on election day, that cannot be misconceived as
cheating or bribing of the voters, it is far from it. The Realist’s approach is being widely used by political parties because it is not only cogent,but also delivers political power. Indeed, political parties have the choice to deploy strategies that will only allow them to play the role of an activist. It is right to say such approach may allow them to influence the politics,but hardly deliver the big prize money, which is the executive power to govern and effect change.
Let stay on points here mates, and make this space here, a place where divergence between different perspectives is nurtured and embraced. My agenda here is to advance my points, so as you, as you continue to advance your positions on the PDIOS. With no doubt in my mind i respect other views but may hold different views to others.We are here to imbue the new ‘Gambiacentric approach’ to public debate, which excludes dismissing others’ points without reasonable justifications. Just to let you know that I have no political affiliations whatsoever. I always try to be objective as possible I can be with my views. I vehemently vow to serve without clouding my views with vested political interests.I remain an advocate, so I will.
Solomon….
Clarification first: the statement (that those who make this argument only do so to confuse the voters in order to advance their agenda) was supposed to refer to ONLY politicians and political parties; not individual contributors here. Sorry, for the ambiguity. (This narrative, if I may further clarify, is not an original view point. It’s been there for a while now.)
Of course, I respect your rights to your views and to express them here freely, but I do have the right to seek clarity if I feel that you are not being straight with your views.
Though it was evident that you were referring to PDOIS (as the idealistic party), I wanted you to confirm it for all here. That’s why I challenged you to be a bit braver and state your views. No “garawalleh/tellindiro”.
Now that you have been bold enough to say it as you believe it to be, may be we can take it a bit further; all in the spirit of positive interaction and a desire to establish the truth from the false narratives.
Solomon…
You said, “The Realist’s approach is being widely used by political parties because it is not only cogent, but also delivers political power. ”
Here are my question:
1. What exactly do you mean by “political power” in the context of your claim above?
2. Which “realist’s approach” delivered political power to Gambia’s opposition parties in 53 years?
3. What are the complexities of PDOIS’ political message that is too difficult to be understood because they are grounded in idealism?
4. What strategy/strategies is/are deployed/used by political parties that win “political power” in The Gambia that PDOIS should adopt or doesn’t adopt?
Looking forward to learning from you.
Bax,
Thank you for your response,political power in the context of winning election and be in the position to govern. Indeed, the Coalition had taken a pragmatic approach by coming to together as a unit and dislodged the APRC from power. Well it is up to PDIOS’s strategist like you (if you are one) to work out what messages resonate with Gambians so as to persuade them to vote for you. It is axiomatic, whatever you have been doing failed to bring a marked electoral success
capable of delivering you the keys to the State House. I am a mere observer giving general unbiased views on your party’s performance, and its standing as far as Gambia politics is concerned. But i do not intend advise you on specific strategies without a proper detailed assessment of your strategies.
All the best
Whose idea was the pragmatic approach of Coalition 2016 that removed Jammeh? Least we forget, there were TWO alliance proposals: 1. UDP Party Led and 2. Independent non party alliance. Which was the pragmatic camp? We remember the charges of idealism levelled against Halifa (& PDOIS) for their alliance proposal.
BTW Solomon, I’m not surprised that you haven’t given me the answers. That’s how its been. People merely repeat what has been put out there and leave out the details, because there is none.
Some fools though, will stick their necks on the line and make claims like:
“PDOIS don’t believe in God”, “PDOIS are communists”, “PDOIS is socialist where one man one wife, one trouser…if you two cows, you will have to give one to your neighbour”… I even heard such nonsense on (official) UDP talk shows. Talk about deceitful politics.
Solomon..
You said, “Although you have not suggested that, I believe that the reason they are in politics is to win power or may I am wrong on this? ”
Response: No Solomon, you are NOT wrong, if “power” means winning the mandate of the voters (given freely without bribery, coercion, ethnic or geographic considerations), to manage the affairs of the country. PDOIS seeks to be in “power” (so to speak), but the FUNDAMENTAL difference between PDOIS and ALL else, is that they are not seeking power for its sake. I am confident and can point to FACTS that PDOIS and its leaders are NOT seeking power for its sake. If you are able to say the same of any other political party and its leaders, then do so, because I am interested to know.
PDOIS, unlike all else who simply want to replace incumbents and continue with the status quo, as is currently evident, is seeking political power to (take note) bring about SYSTEM CHANGE.
Political Scientists, you may know, may differ on how SYSTEM CHANGE can be achieved, but they are ALL agreed one ONE thing: SYSTEM CHANGE is inconceivable without assumption to political power. In other words, those who wish to change how society is shaped and works, must first have control over state power.
For some, assuming state power to bring about system change, as conceived by the leaders, should be by FORCE, either through mass uprising or armed insurrection. Examples are the Bolshevik Revolution (Russia) and the Communist Revolution (China). It must be pointed out here that history has recorded that those who seize power by force NEVER respect the RIGHTS of their citizens to participate freely in running the affairs of their countries.
For others, (and these are very, very rare) power should ONLY be assumed through DEMOCRATIC ROUTES, where citizens freely transfer their mandate to those who seek to lead, through free and fair medium of (political) elective expression. A shining example in this group is the great MAHATMA GHANDI (India), perhaps the greatest democrat of all times.
PDOIS belongs to this latter group of leaders and it is an INCONTESTABLE testimony to their democratic credentials that they chose the democratic route, in view of the existing political environment at the time they emerged to date, to seek political power in The Gambia.
Their failure to win power, is not because of the “complexities of their message grounded in idealism”, but due to the incredibly corrupted political system and largely politically ignorant population, thus the strategy of political education (which you acknowledged), as a prerequisite towards creating an enlightened and sufficiently politcally educated electorate to achieve their goals.
The DEMOCRATIC group, I should point out, needed to be divided into two:
1. those who seek the voters’ mandates by ALL means possible, including coercion, bribery, family and/or ethnic relations;
2. those who seek the voters’ mandates by no means except the power of their message. PDOIS belongs to this 2nd group.
And again when the Chinese are giving a helping hand to the government is there anything wrong with that? w
aren’t the Taiwanese not doing the same during jammeh time stop fooling and
Contradicting yourself and don’t make fool of yourself because you are an elderly person
Solomon,
I seem to be missing something here and I would like you to enlighten me on that point. What is the “idealist“ message of PDOIS and the “realist“ politics of those who you claim to have succeeded at the pools?
May be highlighting a few examples will be helpful to me to understand you better.